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I assume .01/.02 is easier than 1/2 at a casino, but i'm still being being melted at .02/.05 tables.

Hi guys
I'm searching for a good way to play online poker (nl texas hold em) with real money in switzerland. Due to the legal restrictions (law of gambling) i can't access the popular sites like pokerstars, etc. (and if possible, i would like to not require a vpn)
When i look on the official sites from the swiss casinos, i don't seem to find texas hold em online games (only this video poker bullshit).
Anybody has some expierience?
Thanks in advance&cheers

Yes, I know what you're all thinking.. how many of these stupid posts am I going to see. Why can't these freakin kids just read the subreddit wiki or the past posts...
Lol yes, I have done both of these things and even played online poker a few years back. I'm only playing NL Holdem and am going to be playing pretty low/micro stakes at 1/2 cent or maybe 5/10 cent max. My real reasoning here is that I just took a pretty helpful poker course and would like to practice the techniques and feel more comfortable to use this at lower (softer) online stakes before I play more casually in my local casinos and in vegas. Also, I am in the US but my state of residence is a "grey area" state so unfortunately no WSOP or Pokerstars websites. As for the wiki page it is very helpful but some sites like Global Poker are not even on there. The old posts (that are somewhat recent) are relatively helpful when they aren't extremely biased and start teaming up on certain websites. Basically I want to get a comprehensive taste of what your opinions are. The more opinions the better :)

I really would like to devote my time on one website. My ideal website to focus would encompass hopefully most of these rules:

The site works in the US “grey area” states (so 888, Pokerstars, and WSOP are out of the question)
Has decently soft low/micro stakes. (I don't expect fish everywhere, but something not incredibly tough)
Doesn't have any issues in terms of money going in and out and allows for crypto deposits/withdrawals.
No true evidence of a lot of bots or collusion going on.
Lively cash games (although I might dabble in some tournaments)

Here are some things that I would like to see but aren't really mandatory:

I would like to use PokerTracker 4 HUD if possible, but it’s not a dealbraker.
A decent deposit bonus and rake back would be appreciated but again its not the end of the world if they dont
I would like a decently stable software that doesn't have so many holes in it and constant crashes.

***PLEASE don’t just say a site name. Give me an explanation too! Pretend like I’m a huge noob (which I am).
Thank you for all of your help! I've heard good things between Global (which I’m still not sure if this is just one website?), ACR and Ignition.. but these are just a few to name. Let me know of any and please give reasoning! I appreciate it so much!

Hello, there! I always loved the idea of playing poker for a living, so two months ago I decided to give it a serious go. I am 29 and have a solid career in management consulting, so I'm honestly no looking to rush and do something stupid: my goal is to improve as much as possible so by the time I'm 40, poker is also a source of income - well, maybe the main source of income, who knows.
I just spent the last cents of my 20 bucks initial deposit. I'm not angry or anything - it lasted for almost 3 months, I'm a MUCH better player right now, had lots of fun, and based on the stories I read around here, that is not nearly as bad as people who get carried away. So I just bought another 20 bucks for my account, but before I go on, I wanted to hear some thoughts on where should I go next. Here is my performance so far: SIT N' GO This is by far my favorite format. I love the thrill of It. I started loosing left and right, but I found PokerStars School really useful. I made myself a spreadsheet to know what hands should I play depending on the size of my stack and the stage of the tournament - and Holy Molly did that make a difference. I went from ending up usually in 6th in STTs to regularly finish third and getting my buy-in back. I even won the tourney two times in those two months - that has got to be good, right? I was playing the 0.50 buy-in STT because I had no success with MTT whatsoever. And what happened is that because I had a tighter style, I ended up going to the late stages too short to be competitive against the chip leader - so often I had to shove it with a not-so-great hand pre-flop just so I didn't get blinded away. Slowly, those times where I ended in 4th place and no piece of the prize overshadowed my multiple 3rd place runs, and my bankroll went from 20 bucks to 5 in about 9 weeks. So I decided to give cash games a go.
0.01/0.02 NL This felt like a complete different game to me, and I also loved it. In only two days I went from 5 to 2 dollars, when I decided I would also make a spreadsheet to tighten my range. It worked great and I made my way back to 3.70 bucks, only to go back to 0 yesterday. In cash games, my biggest weakness is a very specific kind of tilt: I find it difficult to see the possibility of a stronger hand in the table if I have a "strong enough" hand. The first time I lost was with a TPTK against a two pairs; the second, with two pairs against a set; the third, with a straight against a flush. I couldn't see the nut coming in any of those situations. Nevertheless, I'm not resentful about it because I know that I won't make those three mistakes again, so lesson learned, I guess.
MY QUESTIONS So I got 20 bucks fresh in my account - what should I focus on next? 1. I love STTs, but are they by any means harder than cash games? Can I make STT viable as a source of income a few years from now? 2. Should I stay away from MTT right now? Is the skill level actually higher, or am I missing something? 3. Should I focus on cash games? Not really my favorite, I must say - but if that's what it takes to improve my game, I'm willing to stay in micro for a few months and see where I get. 4. Should I play live? There are no casinos in my country - only live tournaments in specialized venues where the best players go and crush it. So I don't see myself having any success whatsoever. Am I missing something by staying away from live action? 5. I've been reading as much as I can all courses from PokerStars School - but I must admit I haven't bought any books and I haven't really wrapped my head around some concepts like pot odds, EVs and so on. Should I be focusing on a specific set of knowledge right now? Where can I know more about it? Thanks a lot for your time :)

I turned 21 about a month and a half ago, and have always had an infatuation with poker. I’ve watched hundreds of hours and played on those fake poker apps before finally joining pokerstars. Leading up to that moment I’ve done my best to read, listen and study pot odds & equity/ general strategy. Watched countless hand reviews. After a month I built up about a $400 bankroll online, through low stake cash games and some lucky spin & gos.... Then of course made the mistake of playing with my entire bankroll (I know I’m an idiot for this, I was feeling invincible and got a little greedy) and went all in with AA v KK, dude hits the river. I took a bit of a break from the app, my spirit slightly crushed after this & a bad beat in a relatively big tournament (for myself) where I was 2nd in chips down to the last 16 out of 80+ entrants & the only Person who has me covered jams my 4bet pre flop, I snap call with AA, he shows QQ and catches a lady on the flop.
2 weeks go by where I haven’t played any poker, and I find myself in a casino with a very large/popular poker room. I play 1/2 NL for the first time live, buy in for 100bb (rather than losing it all at the blackjack tables) and walked away after 3 hours up $210. Made some pretty painful lay downs and a few rookie mistakes for my first time, but was aggressive when I needed to be and got max value out of the few hands I had. But overall loved the interpersonal vibe of the table & people I was playing against. I also found it easier to play certain hands live compared to online. If I had the choice of live or online I’d take live games any day. Anybody else feel the same way, Is the transition from live poker to online more difficult than the other way around?

I have searched far and wide for these Cartamundi Plastic Playing Cards in the US.
I thought I had found them when I saw Spinettis Gaming had these in store, only to find that these weren't the same cards.
You may have seen these cards in the WSOP, Pokerstars events, etc. They are everywhere now as this design is the one used on the RFID cards most everywhere. However, those RFID cards go for over $150 a deck.
I'm just looking for these beauties in the US or somewhere in the continent. I'm a collector and having these would mean the fucking world to me.
Does anyone have any idea about where to find these? I've emailed Cartamundi but they've been far from helpful.
More sites that carry these
More sites in Europe :(
Cheap but I can't fuckin get them

Poker players are anxiously waiting for the Australian Open to conclude, not because they don't like tennis, but simply because the poker event begins immediately after. Some of the best poker players in the world will be traveling to Australia in early February to compete in this competition. Meanwhile, they have plenty of things to do over the Internet and PokerStars is a great place to be this January. The TCOOP 2015 has already begun and the poker room has announced the complete schedule for the massive online tournament. It will conclude on February 1 and the updated list contains all the dates for the tournament starting on January 28. Check out the complete schedule below: 28-Jan 08:00 28 $82.00 TCOOP-28: $82 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Re-Entry], $250K Gtd $250,00028-Jan 10:00 29 $215.00 TCOOP-29: $215 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Turbo, Shootout, Progressive Super-Knockout], $150K Gtd, No Late Registration $150,00028-Jan 12:00 30 $11.00 TCOOP-30: $11+R PL Omaha [6-Max,3x-Turbo], $125K Gtd $125,00028-Jan 14:00 31 $82.00 TCOOP-31: $82 Stud H/L [Turbo], $25K Gtd $25,00029-Jan 12:00 32 $7.50 TCOOP-32: $7.50+R NL Hold'em [3x-Turbo], $300K Gtd $300,00029-Jan 14:00 33 $82.00 TCOOP-33: $82 Razz [Turbo], $50K Gtd $50,00029-Jan 16:00 34 $215.00 TCOOP-34: $215 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Re-Entry], $600K Gtd $600,00029-Jan 18:00 35 $82.00 TCOOP-35: $82 PL Omaha [4-Max, Turbo], $100K Gtd $100,00030-Jan 08:00 36 $27.00 TCOOP-36: $27 NL Draw [Turbo, Re-Entry], $25K Gtd $25,00030-Jan 10:00 37 $82.00 TCOOP-37: $82 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Turbo], $225K Gtd $225,00030-Jan 12:00 38 $215.00 TCOOP-38: $215 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Ante Up, Progressive Super-Knockout], $200K Gtd $200,00030-Jan 14:00 39 $82.00 TCOOP-39: $82 FL Hold'em [6-Max, Turbo], $50K Gtd $50,00031-Jan 10:00 40 $215.00 TCOOP-40: $215 HORSE [Turbo], $50K Gtd $50,00031-Jan 12:00 41 $215.00 TCOOP-41: $215 PL Omaha [Turbo, Heads-Up, Super-Knockout], $125K Gtd, No Late Registration $125,00031-Jan 14:00 42 $82.00 TCOOP-42: $82 NL Hold'em [Turbo], $250K Gtd $250,00031-Jan 16:00 43 $109.00 TCOOP-43: $109 NL Omaha H/L [6-Max, Hyper-Turbo], $75K Gtd $75,00031-Jan 19:00 44 $33.00 TCOOP-44: $33 Saturday Speedway Special Edition [Turbo], $175K Gtd $175,0001-Feb 06:00 45 $109.00 TCOOP-45: $109 NL Hold'em [Turbo], $225K Gtd $225,0001-Feb 10:00 46 $215.00 TCOOP-46: $215 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Ultra-Deep], $500K Gtd $500,0001-Feb 12:00 47 $2,100.00 TCOOP-47: $2,100 NL Hold'em [Turbo, High Roller], $1.25M Gtd $1,250,0001-Feb 13:30 48 $320.00 TCOOP-48: $320 8-Game [Turbo], $100K Gtd $100,0001-Feb 15:30 49 $700.00 TCOOP-49: $700 NL Hold'em Main Event [Turbo], $2M Gtd, $300K+ to 1st Place! $2,000,0001-Feb 18:30 50 $215.00 TCOOP-50: $215 Sunday Supersonic TCOOP Wrap-Up [Hyper-Turbo], $500K Gtd $500,000
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Exactly one month from now, the 2014 World Championship of Online Poker will begin and as always, PokerStars will be the gracious host for the event. Some of the best poker players in the world are expected to participate and this includes a plethora of PokerStars Team Pros. The buy-ins are by no means prohibitive, so both regular players and grinders will get the chance to play in the 2014 WCOP. Check out the complete schedule below: Sunday, September 7Event 01 - 08:00: $109 NL Hold'em [WCOOP Kickoff]Event 02 - 11:00: $215 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Sunday Warm-Up SE]Event 03 - 14:30: $215 NL Hold'em [Sunday Million SE]Monday, September 8Event 04 - 11:00: $320 PL Omaha [6-Max]Event 05 - 14:00: $320 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Shootout]Event 06 - 17:00: $215+R NL Hold'em [Turbo]Tuesday, September 9Event 07 - 11:00: $215 NL DrawEvent 08 - 14:00: $215 NL Omaha H/L [6-Max]Event 09 - 17:00: $1,050 NL Hold'em [Super Tuesday SE]Wednesday, September 10Event 10 - 08:00: $215 PL Omaha [Knockout]Event 11 - 11:00: $320 NL Hold'em [Ante Up]Event 12 - 14:00: $215 NL Hold'em [Heads-Up]Thursday, September 11Event 13 - 06:00: $215 NL Hold'em [Progressive SKO]Event 14 - 11:00: $530 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Knockout]Event 15 - 14:00: $320 Stud H/LFriday, September 12Event 16 - 11:00: $215 PL Omaha [6-Max, Progressive SKO]Event 17 - 14:00: $215 NL Single Draw 2-7 [Re-Entry]Event 18 - 17:00: $320 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Zoom]Saturday, September 13Event 19 - 11:00: $109 NL Hold'emEvent 20 - 13:00: $ $320 NL Hold'em [Progressive SKO]Event 21 - 15:00: $320 PL Omaha H/L [6-Max]Sunday, September 14Event 22 - 11:00: $215 NL Hold'em [Sunday Warm-Up SE]Event 23 - 12:30: $10,300 NL Hold'em [8-Max, Re-Entry, High Roller]Event 24 - 14:30: $700 NL Hold'emMonday, September 15Event 25 - 11:00: $215 NL Hold'em [4-Max]Event 26 - 14:00: $320 StudEvent 27 - 17:00: $215 PL Omaha [Turbo, 1R1A]Tuesday, September 16Event 28 - 11:00: $320 Mixed Hold'emEvent 29 - 14:00: $320 FL BadugiEvent 30 - 17:00: $1,050 NL Hold'em [Super Tuesday SE]Wednesday, September 17Event 31 - 08:00: $215 PL 5-Card Omaha H/L [6-Max, 2R1A]Event 32 - 11:00: $700 NL Hold'em [Progressive SKO]Event 33 - 14:00: $320 8-GameThursday, September 18Event 34 - 06:00: $320 NL Hold'em [6-Max, Re-Entry]Event 35 - 11:00: $320+R PL Omaha [6-Max]Event 36 - 14:00: $320 Triple Draw 2-7Friday, September 19Event 37 - 11:00: $215+R NL Hold'emEvent 38 - 14:00: $530 FL Omaha H/LEvent 39 - 17:00: $215 NL Hold'em [6-Max, 10-Min Levels]Saturday, September 20Event 40 - 11:00: $1,050 NL Hold'em [6-Max]Event 41 - 13:00: $530 NL Hold'em [Progressive SKO]Event 42 - 15:00: $320 HORSESunday, September 21Event 43 - 11:00: $215 NL Hold'em [Sunday Warm-Up SE]Event 44 - 12:30: $10,300 NLHE [High-Roller Heads-Up]Event 45 - 14:30: $2,100 NL Hold'emMonday, September 22Event 46 - 11:00: $320 PL 5-Card Omaha [6-Max, 1R1A]Event 47 - 14:00: $320 NL Hold'em [Re-Entry]Event 48 - 17:00: $215 NL Hold'em [Turbo, Knockout]Tuesday, September 23Event 49 - 11:00: $320 Mixed NL Hold'em / PL OmahaEvent 50 - 14:00: $530 RazzEvent 51 - 17:00: $1,050 NL Hold'em [Super Tuesday SE]Wednesday,…
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Hey everyone.
I've been lurking here a while, playing PokerStars play money (USA) and I've been wanting to take a trip cross-state to a casino.
I've noticed the style of play changes drastically in PokerStars play money when moving into higher stakes (100k+ buyins) which I assume is because you move further away from the reload amount. I'm wondering if anyone with experience in both could possibly compare what to expect when playing 1/2 NL live vs higher stakes play money?
Thanks!

Quangholio@poker: Thoughts on my poker blog and comments for topics; AMA
https://www.reddit.com/pokecomments/6z0nln/thoughts_on_my_poker_blog_and_comments_for_topics/ Hi poker players - I was a losing and recreational player starting from the PartyPoker boom until the end of 2008. In January 2009, I found $500 I had left laying around in my Pokerstars account, decided to see what I can do with it at 5/10. I ran the $500 up to $5000, and decidedly to take poker seriously, and have never looked back.
I am a former 2x Pokerstars Supernova Elite (only 209 of us in 2009). I have played over 5million hands of online poker (multi-tabling up to 24 tables at a time). I currently play live casino games mainly at Winstar Casino and underground Dallas games, ranging from 2/5 up to 10/25 in both NL with a recent transition to PLO, and have played over 8000hrs of Live Poker since BF.
When I started playing poker seriously in 2009, I invested over $20,000 in poker coaching from various online pros the 1st two years, including mental game coaching from Jared Tendler. My mental game is what gives me an edge over other players of my skill level at the table.
I've recently started a blog focusing on the mental side of poker to share my knowledge and thoughts, and its carryover into real life. Please comment and give inputs. If you have questions or topics you want me to write about, please let me know. Thanks!
https://invariance.pokeblogs/life-poker https://redd.it/6z0nln
Comment link: /pokecomments/6z0nln/thoughts_on_my_poker_blog_and_comments_for_topics/dmrmt9y

RealizedEquity: Lame.
Heiners_Liet: Why?
causeWhyNotMate: why not, mate?

I have 2 sets of friends who play poker (NL texas hold'em), and who are having this colorful dispute over what I (the semi-beginner of the bunch) think should be a pretty simple rule to figure out, either way.
Group A says: no matter what, you have to double the previous action. So if player A bets 200, then player B raises to 400, player C's re-raise MUST be 800. (And player D 1,600, etc.)
Group B says: no no no, you only have to match the bet/raise; so that if player A bets 200, then player B raises to 400, player C only has to re-raise to 600 (to match player B's raise of 200 on top).
I realize different places might play by different rules, (and pokerstars plays by group B's rules), but my friends on either side are adamant that most places (casinos especially) play by the rules as they understand them.
Which is it?
Edit I added new info about the argument in this post, which might change things.

Haven't been on this sub very long, and I'm not seeing topics like this here, but oh well, I'll give it a try.
My story (and why not share yours?): I started playing NL Texas Hold'em last October. I've never played any cards before that. I'm playing:

Online free tournaments (pokerstars)
Online pay tournaments (really cheap though!)
Real-life Freeroll tournaments (bar games from 20 to 120 people with cash prizes, via amateur leagues)
Casino tournaments ($60 buy-ins)

I do pretty well, finish in the final tables often enough to reasonably expect it; but my main problem (as I interpret it) is that I could do wonders if I was a bit more aggressive.
Any way to help that? I feel like I'm asking the most ridiculous question ever, as in, either you have it or you don't... but maybe you all have something to say about that? Do you just get more aggressive as you get more confident? I'm not a mouse, but I get scared out of hands by maniacs pretty easily and that drives me crazy.
Whatever comments, food-for-thought, welcome. I'm just trying to make it to the next level.
I also need to learn more about basic odds; any favorite sites? I'm sure there's a million. How/where did you learn?

Hi,
I'm switching to a mac in a few days and would really like to continue multitabling zoom on Pokerstars (live in Germany) with an HUD (I'm using HM2). So currently I'm seeing my options being either:

Run windows through bootcamp and play as normal.
Purchase PT4 and play on 888's snap
Play on stars but with Pokercopilot, however this is only singletabling I believe

So how are you guys doing it? Also hows 888, I think its pretty good due to them having casino games meaning more fishy. I'm playing 5 NL if that helps

Hi Reddit, I will warn you this may be a little long. I am fairly new to poker starting playing online about 4 months ago. I played home games for fun with High school friends in the past, but never took the game too seriously. My friend suggested to go to the casino one day, so I did and I ended up breaking even after several hours. This was exciting because I felt I didn't know much about poker and I still managed to do okay with patience and waiting for the right hands. After that night, I grew a strong interest for poker and decided to pick up a few books and dibbed and dabbed in some small cash games online. After a while of playing cash games, I started to do Sit N Go's On stars. Grinding them and researching how to play tournament NL Hold'em. I ended up winning a few Sit n Go's after much grinding. I found learning tourneys to be an investment, I wanted to learn to play well in tournaments and eventually it paid off. I won the Big 5.50$ on pokerstars with 5549 entrant. I was 2nd in chip lead when there were three and we ICM chop. I took home a nice 3200$.
Since them, I went to the casino again once, because I really enjoy live games and get bored with Online. I went about 1 week ago, bought it for 150, and ended up walking out with 500$ within a few hours. This was so thrilling because I made all the right play, had some cards and just played ABC poker and rolled over 1-2 for that night. Tonight I decided to go back. I bought it max this time 200$ and ended up getting into some pretty bad hands. Ex: KK pre flop at the cutoff, a few limpers, the button raises to 16, I reraise 75, he flat calls, flop is A Q 4 rainbow. I check he shoved. I think for a while and decide to fold, he flips over QQ. I was willing to shove the hand and was really thinking this guy would either shove or fold my HUGE pre flop raise.
I think overall I made some REALLY good decisions, very smart folds. But those ended up costing me money. I tighten up REALLY bad, and honestly the cards we're not coming at all.
I was playing with a few maniaks raising 12$ on 1-2 EVERY hand with air. I figured I could take advantage if I get a good hand. Hands were just not coming at all or, hands would come with a SUPER unfavorable pot. I have TPTK and call to the turn and the turn card givens 4 to a straight or 4 to a flush and I had to fold many good hands due to really wet textures. Also I had about 14 pocket pairs during the 6 hours I was there and not once did I hit a board with a set, most of the time boards were overcards and flush draws. Also pre flop short stack, about 70BB, somebody raises me 25 pre flop, I have JJ I shove my last 100$ he calls and shows the other JJ. Split pot.
I ended up losing 350$, 1 buy in and my 2nd rebuy I left with 50$. I felt I played well, but this downswing really hurt. I almost want to quit poker now while I am ahead with my big online win... I know I may just be tilting now but it was really hard staying there 6 hours, and really getting no cards and never connecting on the flop. Sorry if this is a rant. Just don't know who else to talk to.
TL DR : I won a big online tourney for 3000$ + , went to casino won big for 1 night, went back the next night and lost 2 buy ins.

So i've been playing on pokerstars for the last 2 days and im breaking even. Granted I should be considering my overall casino winnings in NL Holdem is around 4.2k in pure profit.
Over the course of 3 hours I lost $400, most of my winnings of the last few days to some extremely bad beats. All which played out exactly the same way and made me question the randomness of cards being dealt.
Lost 4 hands, fullhouse to quads. Each hand starts with pocket pair, eg AA, 77, 88 ect Each hand would Flop a full house Each hand would lose to opponent when they turned, and rivered Quads.Something like 1080:1 Odds of it happening. Each time my opponent would put me all in on the the flop or pre-flop.
Example of actual hand- Me : AA Him : QQ
Flop A88 Turn Q River Q
Anyway any information is appreciated. I just consider myself a reasonable player and to be losing like that with 4 1000:1 hands is kind of amazingly badluck if the cards are truely random.
Edit 1 - I know that everyone suffers bad beats. Im just recognizing a pattern of cards in a session that resulted in a loss because of what looks to be a predetermined pattern since it occured 4 times in identical fashion.

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Questions	Answers
How do you find out about these games? (Friend of a friend of a friend?) Are they mostly hosted in Manhattan or within the other boroughs and NJ as well?	I've been around the games for awhile, and through the loop I've discovered more games. I started out when Manhattan would have places with 14 cash games pumping before the big shooting then they really cracked down on it.
Any casino tournament players in this?	Casino players love them because it's a lot more action and talent pool is very slim. Yes there are tournaments aswell, all sorts
What's your style? New age aggressive online type or old school mathematical? I work in Information Security and part of my work is social engineering gigs where I even worked with Law Enforcement to understand body language. Have you used something like that to your advantage? Most n00bs try to look for microexpressions when it's usually the feet and torso that are sure tells. So for huge winnings, how do you stash it away? Deposits of less than $10k in different accounts? What's your educational background and before you decided to make this your living, what was your work profile? Did you start of at casinos or was it always clubs?	My style is and has always been tight aggressive. I'm very selective with my hands, everything has to go into consideration. Micro expressions are good of you pick it up and you're right about the 'happy feet' and torso. There are many many tells to pick up on in addition to timing and betting patterns and tilt factor. All those things give away valuable information. Figuring out what to do with the money is always a good problem to have and im business/street savy so I find options. I went to Baruch University and ran my first game in the school lol. We actually made the papers. I dropped out to open a clothing boutique (investment came from poker) It was always clubs and casinos were secondary but still profitable.
I'm reading this while in class at Baruch, I remember people used to play in the 3rd floor game room, but they seemed too good so I never got involved.	Yep gameroom .. Where it all began. We had official tables there and everything!
What do you mean by happy feet/ torso? how can you see this at the table or casino?	You can't see happy feet in most cases. Torso movement you can pick up by the shirt moving, it also depends on how close you are to the villain.
Hey, thanks for the AMA, just a few questions. Do you still consider it gambling or has it become another form of employment? Also what's your average income? Does it frighten you that you may lose a lot of money due to pure chance? Biggest win/loss? What are your thoughts on online poker? If given the opportunity would you choose another job?	I havent considered it gambling since i got a real grasp of the game. I don't gamble. Never played a table game, scratch off. I won't even play lotto. All my friends are degenerates so I know the deal. My biggest win was 56k but I was being staked so gave away 60%. Biggest loss is 2k. Online poker is free money if you know what you're doing. A bunch of my close friends moved to Canada just to be able to play, 4 guys combined bankroll over 2 mill. I've gone too far in poker to walk away from it. It's like 2nd nature, most places would rather me not play because I'm a tightass or parasite in their eyes lol.
What was the buy-in on the stake game?	I usually play 2/5 or 5/5 and sit down with a nickel ($500) Sometimes there are really good 1/3 games and I sit with 300.
being staked. Sorry - what does that mean?	Yea it's when someone buys you into the game and get a % of the profits but covers the loss entirely in the event of a loss. I only let people stake me in bigger games I wouldn't normally play with my own money.
Knowing the games like you do, what is the lowest bankroll you'd consider having to sit at a $2/5 table?	I go with the 20/25 buy-ins rule because I've went on bad runs before and I would rather have the insurance. So you if buyin for 300 to sit comfortably I want to have at least 6k to work with. Most people dont follow any kind of bankroll management and go broke over and over again.
What happens if you lose all the money? I understand they get nothing back but is that really what happens or do you have to pay a little back to them as a show of goodwill? Or do they just bust you kneecaps and call it even?	Nope lol, stop watching Sopranos .. They take the hit as a bad investment. So far im up with all my backers
You have never had to pay makeup?	Nope.
How about ARod? I've heard he's been to these underground spots on occasion.	I was at the club when he was playing. You would be surprised how many celebrities I met at games. I have met more in clubs than in casinos.
What is the culture of these games like, or does it vary wildly? I saw some elderly Jews in your pictures - is that typical, or are there businessmen, or mostly gambling types? Do women play? Do you often play against the same people or does it cycle out fairly regularly? If I WERE to, ahem, get involved in these games, how what would I want to look for in a "good" room vs. a "bad" room, if there are such categories? I guess, what makes you prefer one place over another?	They vary very wildly. Most places are a mixed crowd especially since nyc is a big melting pot. There are also games that are all albanian or asian etc.. One of the biggest factors in game selection is the rake/chop. There are some games that flat out rake 10% with no cap.they do this because they give out credit and because they are greedy. A good realistic rake for a city 1/2 or 2/5 is 10% with a $15 cap. Also you want to play against action players not tight ass grinders.
How many games are typically going on (say, in Manhattan alone) a weeknight vs. a weekend? It sounds like you've been around a while - do you have any sense of roughly how many people in the NY area are doing what you do, i.e. making living off these games? Dozens? Hundreds? More?	At any given time from 8pm to 4am there are dozens of live cash games going on. Weekends most places open up earlier than weekdays because of the usual working clientele.
How would you compare the average skill level? For example, if you play online what stakes would you compare these games to?	The skill level now is tougher than it was 5 years ago. When ESPN had poker on all the time it was literally free money if you knew anything. Now bad players lost tons of money and tightened up, still plenty of money to go around if you know where to look.
	The most common games especially in the city are 1/2NL and 2/5NL .. Although the past year or so Omaha and rotation have been gaining momentum because it's so much more action.
Instead of putting up with 10% $15 cap rake, why don't you just take the bus/train/drive to AC and play at the Borgota?	I go to ac and Parx frequently but you CANNOT compare the action in clubs vs. casinos
Meaning the action in casino's is more? Right? So why would you not want to play in them?	The action in clubs is more.
Borgata or Parx: which do you prefer, and which has the better action for a moderate-skilled 1/2 player? Also, Casino 1/2 PLO; is the preflop action as heavy as it's rumored to be? I've heard that at Borgata, typical preflop PLO pot is $70.	I get to Parx in a hour, borgata in 2. I would go to Borgata for the weekend and give it 3 solid sessions. Borgata has more talent but there's still money for the taking in 1/2. The 2/5 in Parx is juicy if you go at the right time. Well yea in a action packed game it's going to be potted preflop. Te underground games it gets repotted often, W I L D.
I would think you have more experienced players in clubs, where you need to know people to even be allowed in the game, than the casino, where someone can wonder over from the slots.	Word spreads quick especially with free rolls and stuff so people brings friends and friends of friends.
So how is Teddy KGB doing these days?	Prick still owes me 2 dimes.
I see you smoke reefer. Is drug use something you see often? Are you willing to share if that answer is yes?	Yes and yes I guess.. It goes w the territory, there used to be games that would spark up the entire table nonstop.
How much money have you made?	I don't even want to know how much I'm up lifetime because i spent so much money doing crazy stuff. I used to not keep track but I average 2k a week for 3 1/2 nights work, cash obviously. I should've been saving but for 5 years I was making more because of action and more bad players. Also, going around the world, crazy shopping and living life.
How are you making so much from 1/2 a week? is bluffing a big part of your game? I still dont know how to incorporate it into the 1/2 cash games since most people are willing to call you light.	I play 1/2s in Brooklyn. It's a younger crowd and they're either overplaying or scared money.
Do you launder your money at all?	Only when I forget to take it out of my pockets.
You mentioned action at the clubs is way looser than that in casinos. What are we talking about here? Are there a lot of LAGs? Loose passive? How do you find out about the games? Are they open to anyone, or do you need an invitation or someone in the know to bring you in? How are you supposed to overcome a 10% uncapped rake? You need a huge edge over the table to make that work. Is the play that bad?	Loose passive for the most part, business men that get out of work and want to fool around before going home. They won't even play, just fish. They are open if someone brings you in and vouches for you.
Where's the advice? We're all ears..	I was bluffing.
Let's say I wanted to host games. First, is there money in it? And how does the house get paid? How much would the house make from a typical game you go to? What does the house provide? Just a secure location and a dealer?	Yes and waitress/massage girl. You can rake a % from every pot. You can also do a tournament with a fee say $100+$15 for the house. They make a fee thousand a night before expenses. Big games make alot.
What would the typical % per pot be?	5% with a cap is optimal for you so you won't affect the game much and still make a few.
Ever bang Famke Janssen?	No but I wouldn't mind owing her money and have her come try to collect.
So you were setup by the house and not the players? Did they deal from the bottom or something? What hand did you lose with when you were 'set up'?	I think I flopped a straight and he rivered a boat. He had a loaded deck, did a fake shuffle and ..
How could you tell you were being setup?	1st hand new deck, and house player beats cash player on the river suckout.
Damnnn... doesnt the deck get cut after every shuffle before the deal? I dunno the typical underground shuffling/dealing routines so I really am curious. If they can fake a shuffle they can fake a cut too eh. Although; I'm assuming there aren't permanent dealers unlike what you'd find in a casino.	When a new dealer comes in every 30minutes they have a deck. They're supposed to fan it out and show the players, sometimes they'll just wash or shuffle to speed things up.
While it looks suspicious I don't think that's enough info to conclude that the hand was rigged. I've seen suck outs like that in casinos yet nobody ever would make that conclusion but because it's an underground game suck out on the river is a set up? Aren't you jumping into conclusions too early? Or did you actually see more suspicious hands which added up to the whole game looking suspicious?	I've taken nasty beats as well. In Vegas I lost w quads twice in one night (no BBJ) it just didn't add up, i felt a very bad vibe and I took a shot and approached the guy. He could've denied and taken his stand but he folded instead.
Could you talk about the 1998 movie "Rounders," and how realistic/not realistic the movie was?	Surprisingly realistic to some degree.
Was it really based on norm macdonald?	Does a zebra have spots?
Some might.. still doesn't answer the question.	I'm not aware of any Norm McDonald connection.
Thanks for doing this AMA. What do you think the biggest weakness in your game is? Do you ever pick up on live tells? I havent really been able to spot any and wonder if there is anything to it. Do you love the rounding life? Regret it?	My biggest weakness is not playing more often. I do well so I only play 3/4 times a week because of gf, family, business ventures and life. Also I usually cash out once I triple up. I figure if I book a win for a thousand im satisfied, sometime I should stay of game is juicy. I pickup new tells every session. My people reading skills are definitely up to par. The money is good but the lifestyle around it is crazy .. The late night hours and characters involved. I don't regret it for a second, poker has been supporting me for a long time and has given me a flexible schedule to do other things on the side like go on reddit lol.
Thanks for the response! The one pattern I have noticed is if I play 4-5 days in a week my level of play seems to go down. Then if a take a break for a few days I always come back to stronger. I guess regarding tells there really are no global signs and its just very person specific?	Caros book of tells.. Use that as your foundation
Hey man, thanks for the AMA. Enjoyed reading it so far and have a few questions. Do you still enjoy playing? Is it more work now, or a bit of both? I ask as you mentioned you don't play too much. What's the biggest misconception, or thing that people get totally wrong about what you do? A lot of people here / on Reddit will ask about playing like a pro, but only for use in their house playing against friends and family. Would there be any more general advice you'd give to people in this situation about which aspects of their game to aim to improve? Cheers.	More work now .. People that dont know me and they don't know the grind just think I gamble it up trying to get lucky. I sit and wait then keep sitting and waiting and think and analyze players. Lot of information gets processed I before I even get involved. It takes me at least an hour or so to get a feel for the game. Be aggressive!
I just started playing poker, doing usually 6 table micros on LockPoker or so, and coming out for the most part winning. I have the hardest time with implied odds though, and using them accurately to calc EV and such. Can you explain them a little to me? Its just not second nature to me yet. I played a .5/1 live cash game last night and busted, it sucked but I guess its fine, last time I went I came out hundreds up, How do you deal with the bad beats? I have read mostly every 'good' poker book, but what one would you suggest I re-read? If you are playing in underground rooms, do you skip (some/all) taxes? Name on 2+2?	I just got back an hour ago from a long night, I'm sorry I don't want to type novels about ev or implied odds (google it) .. I deal with bad beats very well. I do NOT get emotional, if it's normal bad beat i simply play as if nothing happened. I'll actually get more action from the table because they assume I'm steaming. If its a huge monster bad beat I either cash out or take a trees timeout, that does the trick. No clue about the book, I've read and analyzed them all and you can extract valuable info from even the worst one, it's all about the experience on the table on my eyes. I have a side business for tax purposes.
What is the business?	I import merchandise and sell on amazon/ebay and to retailers
How old are you? How did you start finding these games? How long have you been playing poker?	27, I was 18 when I first discovered what goes on behind shady looking doors.
Talk etiquette. Is everyone friends? If not, are you friendly with these strangers, or is it all business? Do you shake hands, joke around, etc, or sit down, play and leave?	Very friendly usually.
I see a big jewish community, as a palestinian will i get harrased if i go to one of these clubs?	Not at all. Somehow everyone blends well in poker games. I know a lot of palestinians that play on the regular.
What would be the best way for a beginner to improve their game? Any specific books that you would recommend?	Super system thoroughly to get your brain thinking about it. There are plenty of very good forums online (2plus2). Plenty of resources out there.
How much time do you put in studying the game away from the tables? I've always heard that for every 4 hours you play, you should spend 1 hour studying (reviewing notes, reading the books, 2+2, etc). Is that an accurate ratio?	I've read all the books and go on forums all the time. I don't really have a ratio
How much do you rely on math in your play? I have a strong math/statistics background, I just finished reading Mathematics of Poker by Chen and Ankenman. It covered basic probability, bayesian probability, game theory, and heuristics for quick calculations. Do you find yourself using this stuff or is your play more intuitive?	My play is more intuitive.
How much do you usually go in the room with and how much do you take out?	Since every place knows me and I'm not stupid I dont walk in with cash just in case spmething goes down. If I lose I just take care of it after the game or day after. I usually have 3 bullets of 500 each. That's for an average 2/5 or 5/5 to sit down comfortably.
Do you give lessons? If so how much?	I gave pointers to friends and have helped people bring their skill level up. Me and some friends were thinking of marketing private poker lessons but im too lazy. If you're close by I wouldn't mind helping you, what's your offer?
Thanks for your input, gambling is not allowed in this sense in iceland so there is no culture for that, from as neutral or personal of a standpoint that you can manage, do you think gambling in this sense is good for a society/community or does it make t worse?	I don't know about society but I'm glad poker is around.
My question is how deep is Chinatown? I have heard there is gambling behind every Canal Street store creating almost a second level. Can you confirm and describe any of the places you have been in Chinatown?	That was not so recent. I'm sure i could find games in c town but they all speak chinese and I definitely don't trust that.
Do you have alligator blood? Also how does one find these games?	You gotta be in the loop and I'm not sure about the blood, gotta ask my primary care physician to be sure.
So presumably a lot of guys are making their living money this way? Where does the money come from? How do rubes get into the game (so that they can give you their money)?	Actually most people at these games come to gamble and hangout.
What's your cover story? Do you work a day job to keep up appearances, or do you just try not to live too extravagantly and draw too much attention? Does your girlfriend/family know this is what you do?	Yes they know what I do and I do daytime work as well. I definitely calmed down compared to how I used to live.
Is dealing at things like these done how movies depict it or how you would at a house game, with the "dealer" role actually moving with the button? Or is there a dedicated dealer for each game? Curiosity as a casino dealer.	Same as a casino dealer.
Do you ever splash the pot?	No but it's on my bucket list.
Biggest pot you were involved in? Win it?	38k pot .. Won 56k that session but I was being staked so only kept 40% .. Still booked a monster win so couldn't complain.
Wow awesome, do you look up to any pros? would you play HU with any of them if you had the br?	My style is more for a full table. I know a bunch pros personally and I invite them to games when they are in town. I fly to vegas on the regular just don't want to move there because I have too much stuff going on here.
Tips on finding these games? if i live in a different state.	Ask around? I can smell a game and I can pick out a poker player out of a crowd .. I'm a sick child.
What was your revelation in the game? I mean what insight really opened up your game and made you a good player instead of an average player and seperated you from the mass?	I started out dealing before playing for real. After a few months I noticed that players are making plenty of mistakes I could make them pay for. I slowly started grinding and found my style and it's been working for me for a long time. It's just a grind, you wait for your prime opportunity then you maximize and wait again.
Most profitable exploit?	Reraising a tilted aggressor with a set if you know he hit anything good.
Lol. step one. flop set. step two... make sure villian has something good and is on tilt. step 3.. raise. Yes, huge exploit you discovered there.	Maybe you can give me a good example and I'll put it into use lol.
What's your best advice on becoming better in general at poker?	Absorb as much information as possible and actually apply it! Find your leaks and seal them
Hi thanks for doing this. 2 questions. How did you fund your initial bank roll? What is a good way to work on reading people?	I organized a house game and raked a little bit and went from there. Caros book of tells and just start watching people. Look at the flop and your hole cards last, first watch players and pickup info to use. You'll get used to it after awhile.
How good are you at online poker?	Definitely rusty havent played for real in years.
What do you generally buy in with for a 5/5 NL?	I usually buy in whatever the average stack is. If the biggest chip stack is a fish then I'll buyin for the max. $500 is the usual amount early in the night/game.
Is there anything you do to maintain your health? Sitting for hours while eating junk food and stressing over hands must take a toll on your body.	I don't eat junk food and I try not to stress. I workout 5 days a week and play plenty of sports.
Is it "card-shark" or "card-sharp"?	Shark.
How to you keep from going on tilt after losing a massive all in 80/20 ?	I'm used to the bad beats. It's part of the game man.
How did you build your initial bankroll?	I started out running a house game without any intention of playing for a income and once the game died out and I had about $800 and didn't look back m. Never went broke either, I'm owed plenty though.
You mentionned robberies/raids and it never involving the players , im wondering is your money somehow ( insured ) even in the case of a robbery by the hosts ?	99% of the time you wont get your money back, that why I dont walk in with cash. There has been cases where the house gives players money back out of their own pocket but usually people take advantage and lie about the amounts lost.
Do you play on Merge?	I don't know what that is. I don't play online since they closed main sites I down years ago.
Ah, yeah just the network that US players use now. Was up in Canada last week playing on my dad's Pokerstars account. Goddam do I miss that shit.	It'll be back.
Let's hope! :) Anyways in regards to your thread: what are some of the bigger names you've played with in these underground games?	Players or celebrities?
Players.	Matusow, jamie gold, Ivey for 5 minutes. Lots of Internet pros, sry I'm tired can't think straight lol.
When you play can you calculate in your head the number of outs, pot/implied odds and EV? I can roughly calculate the number of outs in certain hands and maybe pot odds, but it's still gets my head spinning. It boggles my mind that people can do that much number crunching in their heads every hand they are in, so I wonder if serious players actually do it?	I ballpark it.
Is your thinking along the lines of "I have X many cards to make my hand, if I call $X I can win $X" and make your decision on that? That's about as far as I am right now with my thinking. For example, if I'm facing a call and I need one card to make a flush and say I need to call $3 to make $30, I will usually make the call. Is that proper thinking?	Give or take .. I do all the equations in my heads during the actions while trying to read players and order a drink from waitress as I smoke a cigarette
As someone who lives an hour from AC, I can confirm that Asians love to gamble.	Because they can't drive properly on the way there?
Do you ever plan on "retiring". If so, what will you?	Sure why not.
I went to the casino last weekend for the first time. I went into the poker room and sat down at a 1-1 table with $60. As soon as I sat down I completely forgot how to play. I have been playing since I was like 8. I just got so nervous for some reason. Did that ever happen to you? Have you ever gotten so nervous you completely forget what you're doing?	No.
Why do you think super system is relevant to the current hold em game? Frankly, why do you think 5/5 live poker is interesting enough for an AMA?	I don't know.
Word met up? i have a few friends in bk.	Send me a pm.
Does the place get shaked down by the mob?	A few games pay for 'protection'
What is the best advice you can give to a player suffering consecutive losses? I always felt I was decent at the game, but my record lately doesn't seem to agree with me.	Take a break and analyze your game. Maybe the stakes aren't right maybe your game selection is off.
What is your current bankroll?	About 55k.
At what point will you move to 5/10? (i'm assuming these clubs run 1000NL, right?)	I play 5/10 if a friend refers a juicy soft game to me.
The Sands casino in Bethlehem, PA has real juicy 5/10 action. $1500 max.	I never had a chance to go. I'm going to check it out this coming weekend.
I'm curious about this.. I would never expect big faces in an underground scene especially since they probably know plenty of ("home") games. Why take a risk (seems like a small risk from what OP has been saying) when they can just play legit.	Action and credit and comfort of it. Trees alcohol strippers whatever the players want basically.
You should crosspost this to /poker	How can I do that? I'll give u poker advice in return.
I hope your not smoking them dutches also where in ny im in ny i want to play	Bk all day.
Some horse/backer agreements will have a make-up or cake stipulation. The losses are originally eaten by the backer, but then a percentage of future wins goes towards paying back a percentage of the previous losses.	True.
SPOILERS! I'm only on Season 2 :(	He misses the gutshots :/
Came here to ask about robberies/raids.	Go on.

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